LLY Overheat Lawsuit Video

[Rttoys]

I watched it again with a friend of mine that has a LLY that 'doesn't overheat' He is now p!ssed, and wants to try to overheat his. I told him he can use my TT when it warms up a bit.

The saga continues.

[Poorloser]

OK I have tried but cannot get the vidio to work any help for a computer dummy would be appreciated.

[Smokie]

As they say in the Budwiser comercial
"Here's to you, Cool My Duramax Man"

Put the V2 on in the early production of the V2 units. Still haven't purchased the fan but probably will soon. It has worked sooo well even without the fan!!! Probably will never tow heavy or hard enough to need the fan but it will be good insurance. It is amazing how fast I forgot how easy the Duramax overheats.. That video brought back old memories of overheating and made me mad all over again.

GM should be required to put a V2 with fan on every 04.5 and 05 and pay TC $1500. per unit

[swatkins]

Originally Posted by Poorloser

OK I have tried but cannot get the vidio to work any help for a computer dummy would be appreciated.

I will try to help you but it's going to be hard in that you gave NO information about your computer..

First are you using windows? IF so click on this link and make sure you have the media player installed... IF not do so or use the windows media player... http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/

Tell us what you see when you click on the movie link, please.

Steve

[swatkins]

The Dodge, in that video, would have been but one on a long list of the many I passed today

[k9eros]

Chris, if I'd have tried your test my engine would have melted down. I was running 230+ pulling a 7000# TT between Houston & Seguin, which as you know is all flat. I probably could have gotten your results with that trailer without getting near anything like the hills around Kerrville.

I haven't heard my fan in a couple of weeks either, but I did trip over it in the garage the other day....

[hopalong]

Originally Posted by k9eros

Chris, if I'd have tried your test my engine would have melted down. I was running 230+ pulling a 7000# TT between Houston & Seguin, which as you know is all flat. I probably could have gotten your results with that trailer without getting near anything like the hills around Kerrville.

I haven't heard my fan in a couple of weeks either, but I did trip over it in the garage the other day....

230+ pulling 7000#????????? wow, just watched the video too. you guys are sure alot more forgiving than i am. ive got a 2005 (guess i should have searched the web a little more) and after reading all the OH threads here and at the dieselplace, the first trouble i run into my dmax will end up in the used side of the closest dodge dealer.......trailer in tow. im over here in the pretty flat SC, and i havent pulled quite the "parachute" the flatbed with the uhaul all the way back, but damn...........

what is with the big 3? ford has the 6.0, the cummins only comes in a pos dodge, and now chevy with this nonsense??????????? where are you going to get a decent year or 2 old truck?

[swatkins]

Hopalong just stay with your truck,,, If it gets hot put a V2 on it and go on with life

The rest of the truck is fine

[k9eros]

Originally Posted by swatkins

Hopalong just stay with your truck,,, If it gets hot put a V2 on it and go on with life

The rest of the truck is fine

Hopalong, I agree with Chris. The Chevrolet/GMC is the best truck wrapped around a marginal cooling system in the LLY's. If you do experience overheating just get with Chris and snag a V2, fan and CAI. You'll spend a LOT less than what you'll lose trading your truck. Your problem will be gone and you won't have to drive a Dodge just to get the engine.
Don't get me wrong, I have two Dodge cars but the GM trucks are better than the Dodges.

[TxChristopher]

I just want to cover a few things about the trailer setup in the video.

I have heard that it is being referred to as a "stunt trailer" in other places, and that it was not a legal load.

The load was completely legal in every way, from pin weight to GVWR to GCWR to height and width and length. Was it a goofy load? Sure it was, I specifically set it up to cause wind drag. Why? Because I live in a relatively flat state, there are no huge mountains with big long never ending grades anywhere close to me, they are over 1,000 miles away. On top of that, we haven't chosen to buy a 5er yet, and I wasn't going to buy one just to test if the truck would overheat or not. So I created a load that would make the engine bust ass enough to maintain speed that when it got to my smaller grades here in Texas they would seem like bigger grades. Simple enough.

Understand this: The cooling system should be designed to dissipate the heat that the engine creates, no matter if the engine is operating 100% output forever.

If it had that capability, then I would not be able to overheat it no matter the type of load put on. All I would be able to do is burn through lots of expensive fuel. My GMC Canyon has such a cooling system, I tried to overheat it and it cannot be done. It was able to tow twice its rated load being my boat and not overheat in 98* weather even dogging the crap out of it as in floored for 15 minutes at a time, the Duramax overheated with the same boat over the same road in 95* weather within 10 minutes. So a Canyon is more a towing machine than a Duramax Silverado? I think not. But many will tell you these LLY's don't have a problem.

GM sat on the truck all summer long without repairing it, it doesn't take 6 to 7 months to put in a new engine. They waited until the summer was over and the temps were mild then said try and overheat it. I was given the truck back from GM at the start of winter with temps in the 60's and 70's, with only 30 days to prove it overheated or not. This means no jacking around with 6k or 8k trailers and little hills, you find the hottest day you can and the biggest meanest hills and get the meanest load and see if it can do it or not. So I watched the predicted temps 10 days out and found the hottest days I could, which only got me lower 90's. Game on.

Is the load representative of what a "normal" person tows? Maybe, maybe not. Some tow heavier, and some tow lighter, some tow even more wind resistive loads. The GM lawyer and the GM engineer complained about it, saying it would have been better if the truck was turned around and closer to the front of the trailer, but the judge sided with us, saying that only weight is mentioned in the GM literature. On top of that the pin weight was too high with the uhaul truck towards the front of the trailer, so I was forced to move it way back so that all the numbers would be legal on the scales. Originally I had it up closer to the front, trying to more simulate towing a 5er travel trailer.

So the load was legit. End of story.

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