LLY Overheat Lawsuit Video

[TxChristopher]

As promised, I am releasing the video to the internet that I produced and presented at the hearing of our LLY overheating lawsuit. Had GM just bought the truck back as I originally wanted, they could have obtained non-disclosure agreements from us and also likely obtained the rights to the video too.

But, since they chose to take it all the way with us, they can now kiss my ass because now I am free to discuss and post whatever I want about the case. Such are the spoils of winning, makes it worth it in the end! Well that and the right at $30,500 they were forced to pay us along with us keeping the truck!

Here is the video:



LLY Overheat Lawsuit - Money Maker Video


Enjoy!

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[Rttoys]

Most interesting (even like the burp), if mine was THAT bad Gm would have a major foot up their a$$. The guy in the Dodge was probably like WTF is this guy doing.

I'm still saving up for my V-2

So were you talking to Rick??

[TxChristopher]

That was swatkins, although I did talk to Rick a few times in other sections of other videos. The judge watched all of the 4 hours of DVD I had and heard the conversations with swatkins, rick, and a couple other Dmax owners who called during the filming. It was a sneaky way to more or less get the testimony of other Dmax owners in when I couldn't have otherwise.

Try towing a high wind drag heavy load like that on a hot day and get back to me on how "bad" yours is The fan on my truck does not even run in 98* weather towing the boat and fully loaded with gear and people, about 8-9k total on top of the truck weight. Like so many others I swore I did NOT have an "overheater" for the longest time. Well, I was wrong. When it was worked hard it overheated. Both the engine that it came with and the totally new one they replaced it with, and the new one even had the 06 intake at the time of the test, GM's "fix", both overheated. The new one is a little better it seems, but in the end they overheat the same.

I want everyone to notice that not only did the engine that came from the factory overheat, but also so did the brand new engine they replaced it with. So, just like Rick, I guess I was just unlucky and got two in a row that overheat, even though some still insist that it is "only a very few trucks".

Yeah, right.

The truck topped out right at 72 MPH floored on flat ground with that big ass sail out back. The load kept it constantly working to where all it needed was a hill to slow it, which would reduce the speed and reduce the airflow and reduce the cooant flow and fan speed (rpm bogging against the load), bammo! Dead duck.

I apologized ahead of time for the burp in the video told the judge that I had some real good country breakfast food earlier at Fort Davis. In the video you hear me say "good stuff earlier" LOL!!!!!

The "guy in the dodge" was a very elderly couple just cruising along, they had no idea that I was even chasing them. If I had to guess they were late 60's or early 70's in age, a man driving and a woman in the passenger seat. It was perfect that they came along right before the grades, and I had just put in a new tape in the camcorder too.

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[Rttoys]

It didn't sound like Steve, that's why I figured it was Rick. O'well.

I've been in the ALL or SOME overheat fight one too many times, that's why I'm here. I do think there are some worse than others, but give them the right cercumstances, they will all fall.

With my particular trailer and normal routes, mine just cycles the temp up and down. I even have it snapshot on my Tech2 at 229* being the worst. Not happy with that, but far from what I saw on the video. As a matter of fact, the wife and I watched the video in amazment how bad it was. Now her additude has changed from 'just another toy I want for the truck' to 'we better fix this before summertime'. Like I said, just waiting on some extra change, but WILL happen before May.

[TxChristopher]

Originally Posted by Rttoys

It didn't sound like Steve, that's why I figured it was Rick. O'well.

I've been in the ALL or SOME overheat fight one too many times, that's why I'm here. I do think there are some worse than others, but give them the right cercumstances, they will all fall.

With my particular trailer and normal routes, mine just cycles the temp up and down. I even have it snapshot on my Tech2 at 229* being the worst. Not happy with that, but far from what I saw on the video. As a matter of fact, the wife and I watched the video in amazment how bad it was. Now her additude has changed from 'just another toy I want for the truck' to 'we better fix this before summertime'. Like I said, just waiting on some extra change, but WILL happen before May.

I could post more video, there were a lot of sections when the outside temperature was down in the 70's and 80's where it would cycle like that, reaching 220* - 230* or so then the fan would slowly bring it back down until the fan stopped, then it would climb back up and within a few minutes it was back into the fan. Same cycle as swatkins truck, fan runs for a ways and shuts off a ways, but never stays gone. Nothing new, we have seen it again and again in every LLY.

The difference in the recovery by the fan was that I had such a high drag load that the truck stayed at or very near maximum outut at all times even on flat ground. It averaged just over 6 MPG for the 1500 miles of heavy overheat tow testing on mostly flat ground so that lets you know how much work it was doing. At times it was getting 4 MPG. Once the temp outside neared 90* all the fan could do was slow the temp rise, it could not ever reverse it, and the fan would run constant mile after mile forever. Every hill then bogged it down against the weight and added that little bit to tip it over to overheat.

I am pretty sure that on a 100* day I would not have needed any hills at all, I think flat ground would have killed it against that sail back there. Wind drag is king here, and goes a long way in explaining why one guy overheats badly with 12,000 pounds and another guy says he just gets some fan but it cools it down. The difference is guy "A" has a high drag load and maybe a headwind when he got hot, and guy "B" pulls a low roofline toy hauler or equipment on a flatbed or whatever when he didn't "overheat"

They are after all mass produced, there is a slight variation but I have yet to see any that deviate enough to save them. This has held true 100% across the board for over 2 years and is unlikely to change this summer.

If all you ever get is 229* and the fan that goes with it, then thats either not so bad or its not so good, all depends on the point of view.

When it comes down to it, everyone should do what they feel is right for themselves.

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[colnago]

Well, I'd say that the video was really cool, but cool it wasn't! Yeow, but those temps just soared!

Thanks for sharing.

Joseph

[D Lafleur]

I had forgotten what the fan sounded like in these trucks.

I sure hated to see you get passed by the dodge and the Mac.

The V2 has definately changed my truck. By the way it was drop tested this weekend in a water hole with no bottom, but one hell of a lip. I had to get under the truck and bend the dam's "ears" back straight. I had to fish the mud and grass out of the expanded metal grill. The grill also folded a little around the fan, but the fan still works and the V2 and bracket are straight as ever.

[Grizwald]

Boy TxC if that wasn't an eye opener I don't know what would be. I made my wife watch it and said that is the reason I spent the $$$$ and installed the V2 as soon I came home from Iraq. One trip like that with family aboard on a hot 110 degree California summer in Palm Springs or any other desert city towing my 5er and I would have 255 degree steam coming out of my ears. That video tells it all. I actually got mad just watching it. Glad you stuck it to the corporate lying bastards. I'm so glad you put together the V2.

Griz

[TxChristopher]

I will carve out some other sections of video, I really captured the temp rises like Rttoys is talking about. It shows that as the outside temperature rises, so does the maximum temperature the engine reaches. The problem begins around 70* with 225* - 230* or so engine temps and ends in the 250* area when you tack on 20* of temperature outside.

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[swatkins]

I could hear the fan... Funny,,, mine does not sound like that one??? Wonder why